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Lance S. Bush's avatar

Good to say more metaethicists clarifying metaethical concepts that are routinely misunderstood in public discourse. I suspect part of the issue here is that moral relativism became popular outside philosophy in the context of disciplines and people who had political/ideological agendas with substantive normative content: rejecting colonialism, supporting tolerance for other people and cultures, etc.; and it became popularity associated with the notion that we should tolerate other people and cultures, even though this isn't strictly entailed by at least some forms of relativism.

Another issue is the typical lack of distinction between agent and appraiser relativism, which I almost never see anyone discuss.

Chris K. N.'s avatar

As usual, I appreciate how well you write about these things, giving your explanation and perspective without jargon, without endless parenthetical references to every respected thinker who ever broached the subject, and without the overbearing tone so many adopt once they’re sure they get it. Many writers could learn a lot from your example.

You write that on moral relativism, morality is relative "to either personal moral beliefs or to cultural norms". I know (and appreciate that) that’s not meant to be an exhaustive description, but I wonder why that is such a common way to frame it? To me (and I’m sure many others), morality is "obviously" a combination of personal beliefs and societal and cultural expectations, and environmental realities, and evolutionary best practices, that all suggest how one should behave in order to thrive. If there is a single framework (evolution) underpinning it all, then it has innumerable layers and variations, relative to every specific instance.

Whenever I can stand to read any of the discussion around these things, however, that view doesn’t seem to be represented. Typically, lines are drawn between more or less dogmatic/religious realism vs a relativism which is strictly "personal" or "cultural" or otherwise flat and unidimensional. It’s a bit like a nature vs nurture debate where neither side will admit that the other side is even describing something real.

Even if it’s objectively, factually wrong, the idea of a naturalist pluralistic relativism that mirrors our biological selves in diversity and complexity, as well as in its necessary, fundamental adherence to facts about the universe, should be fertile ground for philosophical discussion, scientific exploration, and real progress toward better understanding morality. At least better than paraphrasing millennia-old arguments again.

So… Is mine really such a minority view that it doesn’t often make sense to bring up? Or do I just not see it represented more often because it’s hard to put into slogan form, and thus not conducive to the philosophical engagement baiting that’s most visible to ordinary surface-dwellers like me?

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