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Philippe Bélanger's avatar

Very interesting post. However, I want to note that we don't have to say that if I hadn't gotten the donut, the laws of nature would have been momentarily suspended in such a way that I would not have gotten the donut. We can instead say that the microscopic state of the world would have been different (all the way back to initial conditions of the universe if the laws are deterministic) in such a way that I wouldn't have gotten the donut. I know that this is somewhat counter-intuitive, but I find it more intuitive than saying that if I hadn't gotten the donut, the physical laws of nature would have been different. On a counterfactual theory of causation, this latter view implies that the actual laws of nature hold because I decided to get a donut, which doesn't sound right at all.

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Chris K. N.'s avatar

Thank you for writing such a good defense of compatibilism. I agree with nearly everything you wrote, and yet...

I still don’t believe in free will, and I think compatibilism, not determinism, is the trivial perspective.

Yes, we can play with counterfactuals, and learn from them. Counterfactual thinking and free volition (to distinguish from free will) are critical parts of the matrix of determinism.

But whether or not you eat a donut, with or without a gun to your head, is not the important aspect of determinism. Much more important is the question of whether you have a say in going to hell for all eternity or not...

Consider how many people there are in the world who believe that they will be eternally punished or rewarded for the choices they make.

It makes a huge difference to them if they learn that they and the people they care about couldn’t actually do otherwise. Determinism changes the identity of God and challenges his omnipotence and benevolence. It changes people’s calculations and motivations for doing good and bad things.

Whether or not we believe in libertarian free will changes how we feel about how people treat us, and how quick we are to forgive.

In my opinion, the determinism that is conceded in compatibilism is not trivial at all. It is a huge deal that most people haven’t yet taken onboard, and it has enormous practical, social, and psychological consequences.

The moral dimension is the whole ballgame, and the rest is mostly curiosa – a bit of a semantic game of mostly academic interest, that clouds the larger issues by confusing the language.

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